> There have been several recent references to TP for Windows 1.5. Three
> questions.

> 1) As a newbie, I don't understand why, if you want to use Pascal to
create
> Windows programs, you wouldn't simply use the wonderful Delphi RAD
software.
> Is it a question of expense?

> 2) If we are simply learning structured programming with Pascal, why not
> stay with Turbo Pascal 7, which works beautifully on the Windows platform?

> 3a) Do users of Turbo Pascal for Windows 1.5 like this software?
> 3b) Is it free?
> 3c) Where can I look at it (download it)?

> Ok, thats *five* questions :-) Sorry :-(

> Thanks for your insights.
> David

> David

> There have been several recent references to TP for Windows 1.5. Three
> questions.

> 1) As a newbie, I don't understand why, if you want to use Pascal to create
> Windows programs, you wouldn't simply use the wonderful Delphi RAD software.
> Is it a question of expense?

> > There have been several recent references to TP for Windows 1.5. Three
> > questions.

> > 1) As a newbie, I don't understand why, if you want to use Pascal to
create
> > Windows programs, you wouldn't simply use the wonderful Delphi RAD
software.
> > Is it a question of expense?

> More of age.  Delphi, from Version 2, is for Win32 (i.e. Windows 95/NT
> and above) and dates from 1996 or later.    TPW 1.5 is (I think) from
> 1992/3) and is targetted at Windows 3.x, which is Win16.

> I believe there was, at the time, TP7 for DOS, TPW1.5 for Windows (I
> think it did DOS too) and BP7 for DOS, protected mode DOS and Windows.
>  The latter came with many useful tools and was the 'professional'
> toolset, whilst the former were aimed at professionals and amatuers
> alike.

> I'm not sure about popularity, anyone have any sales figures or just
> some good guesses at the ratio of sales between the three?

> > 2) If we are simply learning structured programming with Pascal, why not
> > stay with Turbo Pascal 7, which works beautifully on the Windows
platform?

> I'd imagine TPW1.5 works just as well though, and at least gives you
> windows (albeit 16 bit windows) programs.

> > 3a) Do users of Turbo Pascal for Windows 1.5 like this software?

> You'd have to ask them!  I've tried all three and like BP7 best, but
> then it is the most comprehensive of them.

> > 3b) Is it free?

> Not as far as i know.

> > 3c) Where can I look at it (download it)?

> It's not free so you'd need to buy it you wanted it, at ebay perhaps.
>  It's not supported by Borland anymore.   You may as well stick to the
> free TP5.5 (or TP7 at borland.fr) if you want a free one, but you can
> get old compilers at sales, ebay and so on too.

> Yes I have TP7, the free French version and have just started with it; I'll
> stick to this now that I know I'm not missing out on anything with TP for W
> 1.5.

> Can I just clarify some terminology?

> As I see it, we can say that TP7 works on, under, with, or is supported by,
> the Windows OS or platform.

> Is that right? Or am I not giving TP7 enough credit?

> Likewise, TP for W 1.5 would not MAKE "windows" programs (GUIs) but is
> rather supported by the Windows OS?

> Thanks in advance
> David

>Can I just clarify some terminology?

>As I see it, we can say that TP7 works on, under, with, or is supported by,
>the Windows OS or platform.

>Likewise, TP for W 1.5 would not MAKE "windows" programs (GUIs) but is
>rather supported by the Windows OS?

> It works as a DOS program and therefore is supported by any OS which
> is DOS compatible, this includes Windows 9x, and to some extent
> Windows 2000 or later, and indeed FreeDOS and DOSemu (for instance).

> > But TP7 does not MAKE "windows" programs per se,
> > that is, programs with an interactive graphical user interface;

> Indeed not, although that doesn't mean it has now GUI potential.
> Turbo Vision (which is available in TP7) gives you textmode GUI tools
> with which you can make use of a GUI like environment (like the way
> you can use a mouse with the TP7 editor), but it's not Windows in any
> way.

>> with which you can make use of a GUI like environment (like the way
>> you can use a mouse with the TP7 editor), but it's not Windows in any
>> way.

> but please note that, at the same time TP7 was out, there was also BP7. The
> B stands for Borland, TP7 was made by Borland but was not BP7... a lot of
> people have been confused by this. BP7 contained TP7 but was also capable of
> compiling for protected mode and for Windows 3. It's not available for
> download, but so many versions of Delphi have appeared in newsagents stuck
> to the front of magazines (and there's FreePascal, and probably Kylix) that
> no-one should want BP7 for that any more anyhow, unless they're writing
> specifically for pre-Win95 Windows.