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dbase vs paradox

hi all

i have been following this NG for quite a while now. so far, i have observed
many people struggling with Paradox in a multi user network environment, eg
lock files, net dir, etc

i am using dBase myself, and i have not had any problems. in addition, i
have not observed many complaints/problems on dBase in this NG.

i was just wondering if everyone is just avoiding dBase, or there just isn't
many problems with it? as i am still in the final stages of deploying my
software, i have time to change to a different database structure if it is
called for.

please enlighten me.

regards
Keith

 

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Most people prefer the extra features (like longer field
names) of Paradox.

But it is never too late in the design phase to switch to
DBISAM.  Only one installation required for a network
installation and no BDE/dlls to install.  And very happy
end users.

I am in no way affiliated with the authors of DBISAM
I only use it because it is fantastic and the tech support
is without equal.

My users have NEVER lost a single bit of data (even
on poor quality networks).

GW.

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Keith Chew SL wrote in message <7rphdg$j8...@newsource.ihug.co.nz>...
>hi all

>i have been following this NG for quite a while now. so far, i have
observed
>many people struggling with Paradox in a multi user network environment, eg
>lock files, net dir, etc

>i am using dBase myself, and i have not had any problems. in addition, i
>have not observed many complaints/problems on dBase in this NG.

>i was just wondering if everyone is just avoiding dBase, or there just
isn't
>many problems with it? as i am still in the final stages of deploying my
>software, i have time to change to a different database structure if it is
>called for.

>please enlighten me.

>regards
>Keith

Re:dbase vs paradox


On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:54:35 +1000, "Graham Wood"

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<q9421...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote:
>Most people prefer the extra features (like longer field
>names) of Paradox.

I am afraid that dBASE has caught up with Paradox there. The release of
Visual dBASE introduced the level 7 dBASE table specification. This
includes, among other new features:

1. Column names up to 31 characters.
2. Primary indexes.
3. True unique secondary indexes.
4. Referential integrity (ala Paradox).
5. A true TIMESTAMP column type.
6. An auto-incrementing column type.

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Hello,
I just wondered, is this version of dBase a part of Delphi5?
I'm about to upgrade from Delphi3.

--
Kind regards
Kai Inge

{If it's not broke - don't fix it.}

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Steve Koterski wrote in message <37e412d2.1740...@news.gte.net>...
>On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:54:35 +1000, "Graham Wood"
><q9421...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote:

>>Most people prefer the extra features (like longer field
>>names) of Paradox.

>I am afraid that dBASE has caught up with Paradox there. The release of
>Visual dBASE introduced the level 7 dBASE table specification. This
>includes, among other new features:

>1. Column names up to 31 characters.
>2. Primary indexes.
>3. True unique secondary indexes.
>4. Referential integrity (ala Paradox).
>5. A true TIMESTAMP column type.
>6. An auto-incrementing column type.

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>Steve Koterski              "Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday,
>Felton, CA                  lying in hospitals dying of nothing."
>                                                              -- Redd Foxx

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On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:18:59 +0200, "Kai Inge Buseth" <kibus...@online.no>
wrote:

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>I just wondered, is this version of dBase a part of Delphi5?
>I'm about to upgrade from Delphi3.

Let me word this carefully...

Delphi 5 comes with version 5.01 of the BDE. The level 7 dBASE table
specification was first supported in version 4.5 of the BDE. So yes, the
BDE that comes with Delphi 5 supports this table format.

The Database Desktop utility in Delphi 5 is still an old version. It does
not support the new table specification. The Database Explorer and local
SQL do.

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Steve Koterski              "Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday,
Felton, CA                  lying in hospitals dying of nothing."
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initially i was using Paradox with all its nice features. then when level 7
of dBase came out, i just ported across to that without a single hassle. all
fields supported and everything ran smoothly. it also solved the locking
problem Paradox had, ie locks the DB file even after you have closed the DB.

i am very happy with dBase, but i just wanted to know what other developers
think of it. any feedbacks or problems? i am just concerned that i am moving
into something that might surface some other problems in future.

regards
Keith

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Steve Koterski <koter...@NOSPAMgte.net> wrote in message

news:37e47a19.28184076@news.gte.net...
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> On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:18:59 +0200, "Kai Inge Buseth" <kibus...@online.no>
> wrote:

> >I just wondered, is this version of dBase a part of Delphi5?
> >I'm about to upgrade from Delphi3.

> Let me word this carefully...

> Delphi 5 comes with version 5.01 of the BDE. The level 7 dBASE table
> specification was first supported in version 4.5 of the BDE. So yes, the
> BDE that comes with Delphi 5 supports this table format.

> The Database Desktop utility in Delphi 5 is still an old version. It does
> not support the new table specification. The Database Explorer and local
> SQL do.

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> Steve Koterski              "Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday,
> Felton, CA                  lying in hospitals dying of nothing."
>                                                               -- Redd Foxx

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On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:22:56 GMT, koter...@NOSPAMgte.net (Steve Koterski) wrote:

>Let me word this carefully...

>Delphi 5 comes with version 5.01 of the BDE. The level 7 dBASE table
>specification was first supported in version 4.5 of the BDE. So yes, the
>BDE that comes with Delphi 5 supports this table format.

What is the earliest version of Paradox that includes
support for the level 7 dBase table?  Windows 5.0 or
Windows 7.0?

thanks, Otto Porter

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Steve Koterski (koter...@NOSPAMgte.net) wrote:

: I am afraid that dBASE has caught up with Paradox there. The release of
: Visual dBASE introduced the level 7 dBASE table specification. This
: includes, among other new features:

: 1. Column names up to 31 characters.
: 2. Primary indexes.
: 3. True unique secondary indexes.
: 4. Referential integrity (ala Paradox).
: 5. A true TIMESTAMP column type.
: 6. An auto-incrementing column type.

Very interesting.  As a former dBASE programmer who still
occasionally uses dBASE tables in Paradox and Delphi, I'm
thinking this could come in handy.  But where can one go
for documentation and examples (other than the documentation
that I asssume dBASE users have available to them)?

You say Delphi's Database Desktop will not (so far) support
dBASE 7 tables.  Will Corel Paradox 9 support them?
--
Rick Carter
carte...@email.uc.edu

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On 17 Sep 1999 01:37:09 GMT, carte...@news.ececs.uc.edu (Richard Carter)
wrote:

[...]

Quote
>Very interesting.  As a former dBASE programmer who still
>occasionally uses dBASE tables in Paradox and Delphi, I'm
>thinking this could come in handy.  But where can one go
>for documentation and examples (other than the documentation
>that I asssume dBASE users have available to them)?

Knowing the database you choose to use is still the best bet. dBASE, the
programming tool, is no longer a Borland product. It has since been
transferred to a new company named dBASE Inc. However, I am sure that there
are is a cooperation pact between Borland and dBASE Inc. similar to that
with Corel, who took over Paradox. These pacts set forth a cooperation
level regarding the reconciling of the table specifications, the
programming tool features, and the BDE.

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>You say Delphi's Database Desktop will not (so far) support
>dBASE 7 tables.  Will Corel Paradox 9 support them?

I cannot say. I have not had a version of Paradox installed since ... um
... version 5 for Windows? Again, Corel would the the authority on that.

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Felton, CA                  lying in hospitals dying of nothing."
                                                              -- Redd Foxx

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On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:31:30 -0600, Otto Porter <f...@xmission.com> wrote:

[...]

Quote
>What is the earliest version of Paradox that includes
>support for the level 7 dBase table?  Windows 5.0 or
>Windows 7.0?

I am not certain of this. The BDE is the default database engine for
Paradox, too. As such, changing the version it uses to a later BDE would
increase its support. But this does not change what might be supported
through the user interface.

Paradox, the programming tool, has been owned by Corel and out of the
Borland family for a number of years. We still provide their database
engine, but the interface is all theirs. And I am not familiar with where
they have been going with that. It would be a good guess that Paradox 7
might support the new dBASE table specification and Paradox 8 and above are
very likely to.

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