Error 200 at 800 Mhz with BP7

Chiel Landsheer

Delphi Developer

Mon, 07 Jul 2003 05:43:03 GMT

Error 200 at 800 Mhz with BP7

Yes, I know it's annoying when the same question is asked time and
again. Yes, I admit that I'm a bit late in discovering. You are going to
scold at me.
I should read de FAQ's!
But can somebody be as kind as to tell me where precisely to find these
FAQ's, or even the patches & fixes, if there are any?
Using a search engine proved to be unforgiving.

Chiel Landsheer, Tilburg, The Netherlands

Dr John Stockto

Delphi Developer

Mon, 07 Jul 2003 22:51:07 GMT

Re:Error 200 at 800 Mhz with BP7

JRS: In article <3A6611E7.2286...@xs4all.nl>, seen in
news:comp.lang.pascal.borland, Chiel Landsheer <c...@xs4all.nl> wrote at
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:43:03 :-

Quote

>Yes, I know it's annoying when the same question is asked time and
>again. Yes, I admit that I'm a bit late in discovering. You are going to
>scold at me.
>I should read de FAQ's!
>But can somebody be as kind as to tell me where precisely to find these
>FAQ's, or even the patches & fixes, if there are any?
>Using a search engine proved to be unforgiving.

Try reading the newsgroup. A question with a remarkably similar subject
line was asked on Wednesday morning, and has been answered. The FAQs
are frequently cited within the newsgroup, including more than once this
week.

Please indicate what search terms you used to attempt to find the FAQs
and fixes; if they were reasonable, we can then arrange that they will
work in future, once the engines have re-scanned.

See also <URL: http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/pas-r200.htm>.

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Chiel Landshee

Delphi Developer

Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:52:20 GMT

Re:Error 200 at 800 Mhz with BP7

Dear Sir,
you are not giving me an answer to my question on how to resolve the error 200
with BP7 at 800 MHz. One URL you supplied is only addressing the 200 MHz problem.
The other ones are "not to the point".
With Yahoo I tried "+borland +pascal +800 +mhz", but all them phone numbers contain
"800" so it ain't nothing.
I will be viewing this group in hope of better advise.
Chiel Landsheer, Tilburg, The Netherlands

Dr John Stockton schreef:

Quote

> JRS: In article <3A6611E7.2286...@xs4all.nl>, seen in
> news:comp.lang.pascal.borland, Chiel Landsheer <c...@xs4all.nl> wrote at
> Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:43:03 :-
> >Yes, I know it's annoying when the same question is asked time and
> >again. Yes, I admit that I'm a bit late in discovering. You are going to
> >scold at me.
> >I should read de FAQ's!
> >But can somebody be as kind as to tell me where precisely to find these
> >FAQ's, or even the patches & fixes, if there are any?
> >Using a search engine proved to be unforgiving.

> Try reading the newsgroup. A question with a remarkably similar subject
> line was asked on Wednesday morning, and has been answered. The FAQs
> are frequently cited within the newsgroup, including more than once this
> week.

> Please indicate what search terms you used to attempt to find the FAQs
> and fixes; if they were reasonable, we can then arrange that they will
> work in future, once the engines have re-scanned.

> See also <URL: http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/pas-r200.htm>.

> --
> ? John Stockton, Surrey, UK. j...@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v4.00 MIME. ?
> <URL: http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> TP/BP/Delphi/&c., FAQqy topics & links;
> <URL: http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/clpb-faq.txt> Pedt Scragg: c.l.p.b. mFAQ;
> <URL: ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/link/tsfaqp.zip> Timo Salmi's Turbo Pascal FAQ.

The Scarlet Manu

Delphi Developer

Tue, 08 Jul 2003 12:53:15 GMT

Re:Error 200 at 800 Mhz with BP7

Quote

Chiel Landsheer <c...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> Dear Sir,
> you are not giving me an answer to my question on how to resolve the
> error 200 with BP7 at 800 MHz. One URL you supplied is only addressing
> the 200 MHz problem.

This is the same problem. The fact that you are getting the same error again
indicates that you are using one of the early, inferior patches; these
didn't actually solve the problem, they just increased the speed at which it
would hit. There are better patches available which do a proper job. The
link Dr Stockton supplied will direct you to them.

Quote

> The other ones are "not to the point".
> With Yahoo I tried "+borland +pascal +800 +mhz",

"borland pascal RTE 200" would have been better.

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Ralf Quin

Delphi Developer

Tue, 08 Jul 2003 12:56:17 GMT

Re:Error 200 at 800 Mhz with BP7

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:52:20 +0100, Chiel Landsheer <c...@xs4all.nl>
wrote:

Quote

>Dear Sir,
>you are not giving me an answer to my question on how to resolve the error 200
>with BP7 at 800 MHz. One URL you supplied is only addressing the 200 MHz problem.
>The other ones are "not to the point".
>With Yahoo I tried "+borland +pascal +800 +mhz", but all them phone numbers contain
>"800" so it ain't nothing.
>I will be viewing this group in hope of better advise.
>Chiel Landsheer, Tilburg, The Netherlands

Well, if you follow John Stockton's links on his site, you could see
that there are several different patches, some work only up to 500Mhz,
but there are patches which run without problems on faster computers.
Your problem seems to be that you have tried the "wrong" patch so far,
as there are more than one possible solution to this problem, which
first occurred when CPU's broke the 200MHz limit, which is actually 4
years ago.
I use a patched CRT.TPU which i even successfully tested on a 1.4GHz
P4 the other day. I assume that the patch (that i applied already in
1996), is identical/very similar to the one of Pedt Scragg, even
though i think i got mine out of an article of the German computer
magazine c't.
Another possibilities that also has been pointed out is the fact that
some of the patches might not have been applied properly.

Ralf

Olivier Avene

Delphi Developer

Tue, 08 Jul 2003 18:40:42 GMT

Re:Error 200 at 800 Mhz with BP7

Chiel Landsheer <c...@xs4all.nl> a crit:

Quote

> Yes, I know it's annoying when the same question is asked time and
> again. Yes, I admit that I'm a bit late in discovering. You are going to
> scold at me.

First, try the easy solution by getting a replacement CRT unit:
http://www.pedt.demon.co.uk/crt/
But if you are concerned about Copyright infringement (totally stupid in
this case IMHO) or if it doesn't work (which I doubt) be prepared to spend
quite some time trying to make your way through the FAQs (indeed very good
but definitely reserved to people with much free time when it comes to the
point of solving this Error 200 problem).
___________
Olivier Avenel SPEC / CEA-Saclay 91191 Gif-sur-Yvette Cedex France
ave...@drecam.saclay.cea.fr

Dr John Stockto

Delphi Developer

Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:35:48 GMT

Re:Error 200 at 800 Mhz with BP7

JRS: In article <3A67ABE4.AC15...@xs4all.nl>, seen in
news:comp.lang.pascal.borland, Chiel Landsheer <c...@xs4all.nl> wrote at
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:52:20 :-

Quote

>you are not giving me an answer to my question on how to resolve the error 200
>with BP7 at 800 MHz. One URL you supplied is only addressing the 200 MHz
>problem.
>The other ones are "not to the point".
>With Yahoo I tried "+borland +pascal +800 +mhz", but all them phone numbers
>contain
>"800" so it ain't nothing.
>I will be viewing this group in hope of better advise.
>Chiel Landsheer, Tilburg, The Netherlands

>Dr John Stockton schreef:

>> JRS: In article <3A6611E7.2286...@xs4all.nl>, seen in
>> news:comp.lang.pascal.borland, Chiel Landsheer <c...@xs4all.nl> wrote at
>> Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:43:03 :-
>> >Yes, I know it's annoying when the same question is asked time and
>> >again. Yes, I admit that I'm a bit late in discovering. You are going to
>> >scold at me.
>> >I should read de FAQ's!
>> >But can somebody be as kind as to tell me where precisely to find these
>> >FAQ's, or even the patches & fixes, if there are any?
>> >Using a search engine proved to be unforgiving.

>> Try reading the newsgroup. A question with a remarkably similar subject
>> line was asked on Wednesday morning, and has been answered. The FAQs
>> are frequently cited within the newsgroup, including more than once this
>> week.

>> Please indicate what search terms you used to attempt to find the FAQs
>> and fixes; if they were reasonable, we can then arrange that they will
>> work in future, once the engines have re-scanned.

You should answer after what you quote.

You should trim what you do not need to quote.

In a new thread, the body of an article should stand independently of
its subject line.

You asked for the location of the FAQs, which I gave you, repeated
below.

When searching for information on Runtime Error 200, why not include
some or all of +runtime +error +200 ?

Why assume that 800 MHz is truly significant? YOUR machine may be 800
MHz, but the error *might* set in at, and therefore be described by,
"over 750 MHz".

I have seen no *trustworthy* reports of start-up runtime error 200
setting in a manner or for a reason significantly different from the
"canonical" error setting in at around 200 MHz on Intel processors with
Borland's Crt unit, apart from those resulting from the application of
inferior parches that just change the divisor by a smallish amount.

For your report to be worth thinking about, one needs to know whether
you are using the product as supplied by Borland or with enhancements
such as TurboPower's, and *exactly* what patches, if any, have been
applied.

Note that code which alters an existing piece of code is likely to check
that it has found the correct location by examining the contents, or may
use the contents to find the location. Such a fix should not,
therefore, be expected to work on already-patched code.

The type of machine will be significant; the onset frequency is lower on
Intel than it is on rival brands, which appear to be slower, per CPU
cycle, in executing the critical loop.

Ensure that you have a genuine as-released copy of Borland's Crt unit,
apply Pedt Scragg's fix carefully to it, and install it in the library
as instructed. That should work; if it does not, we will all be
interested.

If you require to use the TurboPower OpCrt unit, then your remedy really
lies with TurboPower. AFAIK, there is no reason why Pedt's technique
should not be applied to TurboPower's code; but that does not imply that
Pedt has done it.

Pedt Scrag

Delphi Developer

Wed, 09 Jul 2003 21:53:00 GMT

Re:Error 200 at 800 Mhz with BP7

In <l$dFD9J0KEa6E...@merlyn.demon.co.uk>, Dr John Stockton
<s...@merlyn.demon.co.uk> wrote

Quote

>If you require to use the TurboPower OpCrt unit, then your remedy really
>lies with TurboPower. AFAIK, there is no reason why Pedt's technique
>should not be applied to TurboPower's code;

If it is a simple switch to 32 bit code then it should easily be applied

Quote

>but that does not imply that
>Pedt has done it.

Nope as I don't have TurboPower's code.

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