Pet Hate

David H. Bolton

Delphi Developer

Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:00:00 GMT

Pet Hate

I read this and other related Newsgroups to find info and help others.
There is a lot of noise, but there is some very useful stuff.

What I really hate though is someone who comes along and says 'Hi I have
this problem xxxx. Please mail me direct with the answer.' Now is it
just me or is this just a little bit selfish? I don't know how long it
takes to post messages and see them answered, but if someone is prepared
to send an answer shouldn't we all be able to read and maybe benefit
from it?

I suppose emailing and posting is a compromise. What does anyone else
think (email me directly- NOT!).

--
David H. Bolton

Mark G. Zeringu

Delphi Developer

Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:00:00 GMT

Re:Pet Hate

David

I agreee with you. I read the newsgroups to see both the questions and the
answers. When I post an answer, I always post to the group.

Mark

David H. Bolton <da...@codecraft.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<MLQ9rxAQcEj1E...@codecraft.demon.co.uk>...

Quote

> I read this and other related Newsgroups to find info and help others.
> There is a lot of noise, but there is some very useful stuff.

> I suppose emailing and posting is a compromise. What does anyone else
> think (email me directly- NOT!).

> --
> David H. Bolton

Ken Whit

Delphi Developer

Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:00:00 GMT

Re:Pet Hate

David,

Agreed... I usually just ignore the 'mail me with the answer' and
post directly to the NG. I say 'usually' because if someone has a
problem and sounds desperate for the answer (or mentions that they
don't have easy access to the NGs), I may post the answer and cc
them a copy by e-mail.

What I _really_ dislike, though, is when I answer a question in the
NG and someone mails me directly for further discussion, but also
places the post in the NG. I spend my time answering the further
question in private e-mail only to find that the question still
exists on the NG on my next visit...

Ken
--
Ken White
kwh...@westelcom.com

Clipper Functions for Delphi
http://members.aol.com/clipfunc/

Quote

David H. Bolton wrote:

> I read this and other related Newsgroups to find info and help others.
> There is a lot of noise, but there is some very useful stuff.

> What I really hate though is someone who comes along and says 'Hi I have
> this problem xxxx. Please mail me direct with the answer.' Now is it
> just me or is this just a little bit selfish? I don't know how long it
> takes to post messages and see them answered, but if someone is prepared
> to send an answer shouldn't we all be able to read and maybe benefit
> from it?

> I suppose emailing and posting is a compromise. What does anyone else
> think (email me directly- NOT!).

> --
> David H. Bolton

Ing. Franz Glase

Delphi Developer

Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:00:00 GMT

Re:Pet Hate

Quote

Ken White wrote:

> David,

> Agreed... I usually just ignore the 'mail me with the answer' and
> post directly to the NG. I say 'usually' because if someone has a
> problem and sounds desperate for the answer (or mentions that they
> don't have easy access to the NGs), I may post the answer and cc
> them a copy by e-mail.

> What I _really_ dislike, though, is when I answer a question in the
> NG and someone mails me directly for further discussion, but also
> places the post in the NG. I spend my time answering the further
> question in private e-mail only to find that the question still
> exists on the NG on my next visit...

> Ken
> --
> Ken White
> kwh...@westelcom.com

> Clipper Functions for Delphi
> http://members.aol.com/clipfunc/

> David H. Bolton wrote:

> > I read this and other related Newsgroups to find info and help others.
> > There is a lot of noise, but there is some very useful stuff.

> > What I really hate though is someone who comes along and says 'Hi I have
> > this problem xxxx. Please mail me direct with the answer.' Now is it
> > just me or is this just a little bit selfish? I don't know how long it
> > takes to post messages and see them answered, but if someone is prepared
> > to send an answer shouldn't we all be able to read and maybe benefit
> > from it?

> > I suppose emailing and posting is a compromise. What does anyone else
> > think (email me directly- NOT!).
> > David H. Bolton

You should probably consider that it is different from case to case.
I earned a lot of flaming some weeks ago for my way of doing it. I
make a rather big effort to maintain the TP-links URL for the community
to give additional hints and hold the answer mails short. One of the
NG members wished that I shall post the messages only directly. Then
another came in and flamed against me, and I sent the answer privately,
so he was angry - I should post it to the NG only...

You can follow some very long threads here, loosing the original
object more and more. And often it is a crying wall in Jerusalem
(sorry, don't know the correct word) for all the frustrating things
which have collected in the soul...

Regards,
Franz Glaser

ullr..

Delphi Developer

Fri, 08 Dec 2000 03:00:00 GMT

Re:Pet Hate

In article <MLQ9rxAQcEj1E...@codecraft.demon.co.uk>,
"David H. Bolton" <da...@codecraft.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Quote

> I read this and other related Newsgroups to find info and help others.
> There is a lot of noise, but there is some very useful stuff.

> What I really hate though is someone who comes along and says 'Hi I have
> this problem xxxx. Please mail me direct with the answer.' Now is it
> just me or is this just a little bit selfish? I don't know how long it
> takes to post messages and see them answered, but if someone is prepared
> to send an answer shouldn't we all be able to read and maybe benefit
> from it?

> I suppose emailing and posting is a compromise. What does anyone else
> think (email me directly- NOT!).

> --
> David H. Bolton

You seem to think that your time is just as valuable as his
time. Don't know where you got that idea...

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The Graphical Gno

Delphi Developer

Fri, 08 Dec 2000 03:00:00 GMT

Re:Pet Hate

In article <MLQ9rxAQcEj1E...@codecraft.demon.co.uk>, "David H. Bolton" <da...@codecraft.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Quote

>I read this and other related Newsgroups to find info and help others.
>There is a lot of noise, but there is some very useful stuff.

>What I really hate though is someone who comes along and says 'Hi I have
>this problem xxxx. Please mail me direct with the answer.' Now is it
>just me or is this just a little bit selfish? I don't know how long it
>takes to post messages and see them answered, but if someone is prepared
>to send an answer shouldn't we all be able to read and maybe benefit
>from it?

I fully agree. Most posters have a spam guard in their E-mail adress and
expect me to type an answer twice.( A message posted might help more poeaple
then a message mailed, so posting has more priority) My Newsreader (News
Express 2.0) gives me the possiblity to post and mail at the same time. This
is what I use. If it doesn't work because of a spam-guard they're out of luck.

The Graphical Gnome (r...@ktibv.nl)
Sr. Software Engineer IT Department
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http://www.gnomehome.demon.nl/uddf/index.htm

Paul Johnso

Delphi Developer

Fri, 08 Dec 2000 03:00:00 GMT

Re:Pet Hate

Yes....I have to agree...it is a drag to see someone ask a question only
to try and look deeper into the thread and not to find anything there. I
don't think that by asking to answer via direct e-mail is being selfish
though...they just probably aren't thinking that others may be interested
too. (...hmmmm...or is that the definition of selfish...you may be right!)

But it's also a drag to have to look through the newsgroup for your
answer...I think that by sending the answer to both is the easiest and
keeps more people happier..and doesn't take much more effort.

Cheers!

*******************************************************
"Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no
other name under heaven given to men by which we must
be saved." - Acts 4:12
*******************************************************

Quote

On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, David H. Bolton wrote:
> I read this and other related Newsgroups to find info and help others.
> There is a lot of noise, but there is some very useful stuff.

> What I really hate though is someone who comes along and says 'Hi I have
> this problem xxxx. Please mail me direct with the answer.' Now is it
> just me or is this just a little bit selfish? I don't know how long it
> takes to post messages and see them answered, but if someone is prepared
> to send an answer shouldn't we all be able to read and maybe benefit
> from it?

> I suppose emailing and posting is a compromise. What does anyone else
> think (email me directly- NOT!).

> --
> David H. Bolton

Michael A. Covingto

Delphi Developer

Fri, 08 Dec 2000 03:00:00 GMT

Re:Pet Hate

Quote

>What I really hate though is someone who comes along and says 'Hi I have
>this problem xxxx. Please mail me direct with the answer.' Now is it
>just me or is this just a little bit selfish? I don't know how long it
>takes to post messages and see them answered, but if someone is prepared
>to send an answer shouldn't we all be able to read and maybe benefit
>from it?

What I do is post a reply, then send them mail saying, "In accordance with
standard Usenet practice, I have answered your question in the newsgroup,
where others can also benefit from it and comment on it."

redm

Delphi Developer

Fri, 08 Dec 2000 03:00:00 GMT

Re:Pet Hate

"David H. Bolton" <da...@codecraft.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Quote

>I read this and other related Newsgroups to find info and help others.
>There is a lot of noise, but there is some very useful stuff.

>What I really hate though is someone who comes along and says 'Hi I have
>this problem xxxx. Please mail me direct with the answer.' Now is it
>just me or is this just a little bit selfish? I don't know how long it
>takes to post messages and see them answered, but if someone is prepared
>to send an answer shouldn't we all be able to read and maybe benefit
>from it?

>I suppose emailing and posting is a compromise. What does anyone else
>think (email me directly- NOT!).

Yeah sure. But you should still not have unkind feelings toward
your doggy or kitty.

--to reply remove NOSPAM--

David M. Goncalve

Delphi Developer

Sun, 10 Dec 2000 03:00:00 GMT

Re:Pet Hate

Since Netscape makes it easy to "Post and Mail Reply," I don't see the
hassle (unless you're sending attachments, or something like that). Any
time I see a question posted, I assume that email would be appreciated,
and I answer both ways. I know I am grateful whenever someone emails me
with a reply to my questions...

Sure--you should (probably) always post the answer on the group as well!

David Goncalves

Quote

Paul Johnson wrote:

> Yes....I have to agree...it is a drag to see someone ask a question only
> to try and look deeper into the thread and not to find anything there. I
> don't think that by asking to answer via direct e-mail is being selfish
> though...they just probably aren't thinking that others may be interested
> too. (...hmmmm...or is that the definition of selfish...you may be right!)

> But it's also a drag to have to look through the newsgroup for your
> answer...I think that by sending the answer to both is the easiest and
> keeps more people happier..and doesn't take much more effort.

> Cheers!

> *******************************************************
> "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no
> other name under heaven given to men by which we must
> be saved." - Acts 4:12
> *******************************************************

> On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, David H. Bolton wrote:

> > I read this and other related Newsgroups to find info and help others.
> > There is a lot of noise, but there is some very useful stuff.

> > What I really hate though is someone who comes along and says 'Hi I have
> > this problem xxxx. Please mail me direct with the answer.' Now is it
> > just me or is this just a little bit selfish? I don't know how long it
> > takes to post messages and see them answered, but if someone is prepared
> > to send an answer shouldn't we all be able to read and maybe benefit
> > from it?

> > I suppose emailing and posting is a compromise. What does anyone else
> > think (email me directly- NOT!).

> > --
> > David H. Bolton

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