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I am trying to build a chat program that will work outside of my company
firewall.  Basically, my company has blocked all the standard chat apps from
working (Instant Messanger, MSN Messenger, etc...) since people spend too
much time on these type of programs and too little time actually getting
their jobs done....  The problem is, I actually need this type of
functionality to do my job.  We are a multinational company and my office is
in Texas... But I need to work with some guys in our London Office.  Since
this would run my expense account up in LD charges, I was using MSN
Messenger to communicate with them about coding issues.

A friend told me I needed to look into using a proxy, but I am not familiar
with doing that.  Any help would be greatly appreicated...

Merry Christmas from Texas y'all....

Wayne

 

Re:Chat program


If your network administrators have blocked these programs, then a local
proxy won't help you much since you still have to run the proxy on your
firewall or gateway.

What you will probably need is something like SOCKS that will allow you to
open a connection through the firewall.  You will need to discuss this with
your network administrator on how to do this.

Alternatively, you could use a local proxy to convert your traffic to, say,
a TCP/IP stream that is permitted to go through your firewall and establish
a connection to a remote server.  You'll need to know the address of a
similar proxy on the other end to convert your traffic to a form usable by
you chat program.  This process is actually called tunnelling.  Again, I
strongly suggest you talk to you network adminstrator before attempting to
this.  Where I work, you'd probably lose your job over it for trying to
bypass security measures.

Charles

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"Wayne Atchley" <wayne.atch...@corning.com> wrote in message

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> I am trying to build a chat program that will work outside of my company
> firewall.  Basically, my company has blocked all the standard chat apps
from
> working (Instant Messanger, MSN Messenger, etc...) since people spend too
> much time on these type of programs and too little time actually getting
> their jobs done....  The problem is, I actually need this type of
> functionality to do my job.  We are a multinational company and my office
is
> in Texas... But I need to work with some guys in our London Office.  Since
> this would run my expense account up in LD charges, I was using MSN
> Messenger to communicate with them about coding issues.

> A friend told me I needed to look into using a proxy, but I am not
familiar
> with doing that.  Any help would be greatly appreicated...

> Merry Christmas from Texas y'all....

> Wayne

Re:Chat program


Thanks!  I guess will have to bow to the Admin and try to work something out
through the proper channels... There is just that internal conflict of I am
a programmer they are network administrators, I write the software that
makes their job possible and they are blocking me... I know an ego issue,
but just hard to get over.

Thanks for the advice, you might have saved my job.

Wayne

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"Charles Stack" <char...@codycomp.com> wrote in message

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> If your network administrators have blocked these programs, then a local
> proxy won't help you much since you still have to run the proxy on your
> firewall or gateway.

> What you will probably need is something like SOCKS that will allow you to
> open a connection through the firewall.  You will need to discuss this
with
> your network administrator on how to do this.

> Alternatively, you could use a local proxy to convert your traffic to,
say,
> a TCP/IP stream that is permitted to go through your firewall and
establish
> a connection to a remote server.  You'll need to know the address of a
> similar proxy on the other end to convert your traffic to a form usable by
> you chat program.  This process is actually called tunnelling.  Again, I
> strongly suggest you talk to you network adminstrator before attempting to
> this.  Where I work, you'd probably lose your job over it for trying to
> bypass security measures.

> Charles

> "Wayne Atchley" <wayne.atch...@corning.com> wrote in message
> news:3c234e72$1_1@dnews...
> > I am trying to build a chat program that will work outside of my company
> > firewall.  Basically, my company has blocked all the standard chat apps
> from
> > working (Instant Messanger, MSN Messenger, etc...) since people spend
too
> > much time on these type of programs and too little time actually getting
> > their jobs done....  The problem is, I actually need this type of
> > functionality to do my job.  We are a multinational company and my
office
> is
> > in Texas... But I need to work with some guys in our London Office.
Since
> > this would run my expense account up in LD charges, I was using MSN
> > Messenger to communicate with them about coding issues.

> > A friend told me I needed to look into using a proxy, but I am not
> familiar
> > with doing that.  Any help would be greatly appreicated...

> > Merry Christmas from Texas y'all....

> > Wayne

Re:Chat program


You're welcome.  Of coures...there's always the addage..."It's easier to beg
for forgiveness than to ask persmission".  You know your work environment
and polices.

Have a Happy Holiday!

Charles

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"Wayne Atchley" <wayne.atch...@corning.com> wrote in message

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> Thanks!  I guess will have to bow to the Admin and try to work something
out
> through the proper channels... There is just that internal conflict of I
am
> a programmer they are network administrators, I write the software that
> makes their job possible and they are blocking me... I know an ego issue,
> but just hard to get over.

> Thanks for the advice, you might have saved my job.

> Wayne

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Wayne Atchley <wayne.atch...@corning.com> wrote in message

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> Thanks!  I guess will have to bow to the Admin and try to work something
out
> through the proper channels... There is just that internal conflict of I
am
> a programmer they are network administrators, I write the software that
> makes their job possible and they are blocking me... I know an ego issue,
> but just hard to get over.

> Thanks for the advice, you might have saved my job.

Charles is 100% correct & spot-on.  Email your boss, cc'ing your contact
abroad, finance and the jobsworths in IS admin, estimating how much company
money/time you are wasting.  This usually produces action.  Just be 1000%
sure you then NEVER chat to anyone about anything except company business,
else they'll tear you to pieces.

Merry Xmas,
Martin

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Good Point, Martin.  Talk to them in terms of dollars and cents.  They'll
understand that (unless they have pointy hair). You can also bring up the
amount of time spent trying to learn their language.  They'll equate that to
$$$$ signs as well.  If you can convince them you can't work effectively and
it's costing them money...they'll probably give in.

Cheers!

Charles

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"Martin James" <james...@nortelnetworks.com> wrote in message

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> Wayne Atchley <wayne.atch...@corning.com> wrote in message
> news:3c2365f5_1@dnews...
> > Thanks!  I guess will have to bow to the Admin and try to work something
> out
> > through the proper channels... There is just that internal conflict of I
> am
> > a programmer they are network administrators, I write the software that
> > makes their job possible and they are blocking me... I know an ego
issue,
> > but just hard to get over.

> > Thanks for the advice, you might have saved my job.

> Charles is 100% correct & spot-on.  Email your boss, cc'ing your contact
> abroad, finance and the jobsworths in IS admin, estimating how much
company
> money/time you are wasting.  This usually produces action.  Just be 1000%
> sure you then NEVER chat to anyone about anything except company business,
> else they'll tear you to pieces.

> Merry Xmas,
> Martin

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