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Chris Uzdavinis
CBuilder Developer |
Chris Uzdavinis
CBuilder Developer |
Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far...2005-10-09 02:42:31 PM cppbuilder77 "Ed Mulroy" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >writes: QuoteYou just lambasted me for quoting and now lament that I did not quote this Chris (TeamB); |
Chris Uzdavinis
CBuilder Developer |
2005-10-09 02:45:31 PM
Re:Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far...
Randall Parker < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >writes:
QuoteRudy, When it all fits on one screen without scrolling, I'm ok with top posts. If I have to scroll to read the context and jump back, I'm gone before I start. -- Chris (TeamB); |
Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]
CBuilder Developer |
2005-10-09 04:03:07 PM
Re:Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far...
At 04:23:48, 09.10.2005, liz wrote:
QuoteOn Sun, 9 Oct 2005 00:46:30 +0200, Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] wrote: Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] velthuis.homepage.t-online.de "83.7% of all statistics are made up" - Stephen Wright {smallsort} |
Randall Parker
CBuilder Developer |
2005-10-09 04:11:00 PM
Re:Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far...
Chris Uzdavinis (TeamB) wrote:
QuoteRandall Parker < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >writes: they just saved the time and mental energy of reading the context. Quote>Quote-back takes up vertical scroll area and reduces the likelihood because the thread is short or because the statement being made stands by itself then I do not waste time reading thru the quote back. QuoteThey have QuoteBy lumping it all together at really complicated then to provide enough context int he same message that one is replying to one has to include most or all of a possibly lenghty message. Then the bad etiquette police jump on a person for quoting back too much. Of course, if you have just read the previous message you do not need all that stuff quoted back and it just gets in your way. The argument for bottom posting is that context is really important. But this gets made by the same people who complain about excessive quoteback. Well sorry, I see an inconsistency here. Quote>Quote-back takes mental time to process and since it is sometimes not Quotebut such a reader can easily skip a line or two of quoted text sense. I've also repeatedly stated that sometimes top-posting makes the most sense. I use both styles. QuoteHowever, when the text is interlaced (like this one), the reader can QuoteBut you are ignoring the other case: The reader might not know what top-posting is bad. I keep arguing that there are trade-offs for each style and that in different situations the trade-offs weigh out differently. I also keep arguing that just because because some style is worse for some readers that does not mean that it is worse overall for all the readers. QuoteWith the selective quoting immeidately above each point to which you person made then there is no purpose served in interleaving my points with the previous points someone else made. QuoteFor example, I'm quite Quote>For some readers it is>needed. So they can look down. For others it QuoteWhen you need the quoted text, you shouldn't have to jumpa Quote>Also, top-post writing imposes a discipline if you do it right: You often that is more efficient than whatever the original person said that one is responding to. Sometimes some original post is so poorly written with a point stretched out over paragraphs that one makes it easier for a reader if one condenses that point down to something more succinct and then one writes a response to it. Of course, one can misrepresent that other person's point. But even people who mix quote-back with their own response do that and some keep doing that repeatedly. Quoteassuming your readers are paying close enough attention to know QuoteConversations naturally flow back and forth. There is nothing zealous QuoteI've heard your arguments, but I am not persuaded. I do not think Konrad Lorenz's experiments on imprinting. A person sees and use a UI style a lot and becomes accustomed to it and the person decides that other styles are worse. QuotePS, please note that "you" in this post refers to "top posters in |
liz
CBuilder Developer |
2005-10-09 08:44:41 PM
Re:Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far...
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 02:29:12 -0400, Chris Uzdavinis wrote:
QuoteNormally I find people simply ignore posts if they're not totally (FWIW, I fall into the interleaved group) -- liz |
Pete Fraser
CBuilder Developer |
2005-10-10 04:13:00 PM
Re:Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far...
Now come on guys, lets stop complaining about something trivial
and get on with helping other people. This thread is a) completely off-topic b) a waste of bandwidth and c) a waste of time reading it Rgds Pete (a top poster) |
Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]
CBuilder Developer |
2005-10-10 06:49:06 PM
Re:Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far...
At 10:13:00, 10.10.2005, Pete Fraser wrote:
QuoteNow come on guys, lets stop complaining about something trivial Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] velthuis.homepage.t-online.de "My mother said to me, "If you are a soldier, you will become a general. If you are a monk, you will become the Pope." Instead, I was a painter, and became Picasso." -- Pablo Picasso. |
Alex Bakaev [TeamB]
CBuilder Developer |
2005-10-11 12:38:01 AM
Re:Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far...
David Erbas-White wrote:
QuoteYes, and I've agreed with you -- I think you misinterpreted what I said. .a |
Alex Bakaev [TeamB]
CBuilder Developer |
2005-10-11 12:48:16 AM
Re:Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far...
vavan wrote:
Quotelet's get back to why borland inadequatedly closed some reports and |
Kenneth de Camargo
CBuilder Developer |
2005-10-11 04:04:09 AM
Re:Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far...
Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] wrote:
QuoteAnd others may get tired of your repeated top posting and slowly Ken planeta.terra.com.br/educacao/kencamargo/ * this is not a sig * |
Kenneth de Camargo
CBuilder Developer |
2005-10-11 04:04:33 AM
Re:Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far...
Alex Bakaev [TeamB] wrote:
Quotevavan wrote: Ken planeta.terra.com.br/educacao/kencamargo/ * this is not a sig * |
Tom Woodrow
CBuilder Developer |
2005-10-11 04:42:32 AM
Re:Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far...
OK, just wash your hands and go back to work!
Kenneth de Camargo wrote: QuoteRudy Velthuis [TeamB] wrote: |
Kenneth de Camargo
CBuilder Developer |
2005-10-11 05:19:35 AM
Re:Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far...
Tom Woodrow wrote:
QuoteOK, just wash your hands and go back to work! Ken planeta.terra.com.br/educacao/kencamargo/ * this is not a sig * |
Alex Bakaev [TeamB]
CBuilder Developer |
2005-10-11 11:53:19 PM
Re:Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far...
vavan wrote:
Quotecould you (or anyone else) please answer to second part of my previous p.s. it seems that your sig is malformed (missing the space at the end after --) |
vavan
CBuilder Developer |
2005-10-12 04:04:57 PM
Re:Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far...
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:53:19 -0700, "Alex Bakaev [TeamB]"
< XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote: Quotep.s. it seems that your sig is malformed (missing the space at the end Vladimir Ulchenko aka vavan |