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VCL and VCL.NET


2003-11-07 07:21:37 PM
cppbuilder83
Whats the different between a Win32 compiler and a .NET compiler
do the controls look different or does the compiler just compile the
code differently.
 
 

Re:VCL and VCL.NET

"Digby Millikan" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
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Whats the different between a Win32 compiler and a .NET compiler
Win32 and .NET are completely different architectures, different platforms,
different APIs. The difference in the *compilers* is that they do produce
different output code to run under each platform, depending on what you are
actually compiling for.
Gambit
 

Re:VCL and VCL.NET

Digby Millikan wrote:
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Whats the different between a Win32 compiler and a .NET compiler
do the controls look different or does the compiler just compile the
code differently.
The programming is different, but the end result looks the same.
Win32 is purely a procedural programming paradigm.
.NET, like the VCL, is a RAD, visual designer/object manipulator,
component-based OOP programming paradigm.
wxWindows is an OOP programming paradigm, but there is no RAD, little visual
design, no visual object manipulator, and no components, although of course
there is a class framework.
 

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Re:VCL and VCL.NET

Sorry Ed, thanks for the reply I sent my last post to your email address
instead of the newsgroup sever (:
"Edward Diener" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
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.NET, like the VCL, is a RAD, visual designer/object manipulator,
component-based OOP programming paradigm.

Why doesn't Borland go for .NET RAD instead of wxWindows?
 

Re:VCL and VCL.NET

Digby Millikan wrote:
Quote
Sorry Ed, thanks for the reply I sent my last post to your email
address instead of the newsgroup sever (:

"Edward Diener" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
news: XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
>
>.NET, like the VCL, is a RAD, visual designer/object manipulator,
>component-based OOP programming paradigm.
>

Why doesn't Borland go for .NET RAD instead of wxWindows?
They are. One of the promises is .NET Managed C++ with VCL support and .NET
VCL classes. They already have a .NET Delphi. But they are touting wxWindows
for cross-platform programming.
 

Re:VCL and VCL.NET

Edward,
Is this for CBX?
Digby
"Edward Diener" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
Quote
Digby Millikan wrote:
>Sorry Ed, thanks for the reply I sent my last post to your email
>address instead of the newsgroup sever (:
>
>"Edward Diener" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
>news: XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
>>
>>.NET, like the VCL, is a RAD, visual designer/object manipulator,
>>component-based OOP programming paradigm.
>>
>
>Why doesn't Borland go for .NET RAD instead of wxWindows?

They are. One of the promises is .NET Managed C++ with VCL support and
.NET
VCL classes. They already have a .NET Delphi. But they are touting
wxWindows
for cross-platform programming.


 

Re:VCL and VCL.NET

Digby Millikan wrote:
Quote
Edward,

Is this for CBX?
Not now, but it is supposed to be in the future.
Borland has given their usual promises, and we wait to see if and when they
will be fulfilled. CBX, in the future, is supposed to support managed C++
.NET, cross-platform wxWindows, and BCB RAD + VCL. What it will actually
support I don't think anyone knows for sure outside of Borland. The way this
whole situation with CBX has been handled is a fiasco. Why Borland is still
so asleep concerning C++ is beyond even Nostradamus' guess. But since
supposedly they are being profitable, I don't think they really care.
I don't take much of anything corporations say seriously anymore. I have now
been out of work for two years and three months, and I can honestly say that
I have been lied to by nearly every company, corporation, agency, and
business with which I have had any contact during that time. I am sure there
are some honest business people out there, but it has been next to
impossible finding any.
Quote

Digby

"Edward Diener" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
news:3fad37b9$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
>Digby Millikan wrote:
>>Sorry Ed, thanks for the reply I sent my last post to your email
>>address instead of the newsgroup sever (:
>>
>>"Edward Diener" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
>>news: XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
>>>
>>>.NET, like the VCL, is a RAD, visual designer/object manipulator,
>>>component-based OOP programming paradigm.
>>>
>>
>>Why doesn't Borland go for .NET RAD instead of wxWindows?
>
>They are. One of the promises is .NET Managed C++ with VCL support
>and .NET VCL classes. They already have a .NET Delphi. But they are
>touting wxWindows for cross-platform programming.
 

Re:VCL and VCL.NET

What do you program in now? Are you developing your own projects?
Digby Millikan
"Edward Diener" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
Quote
Digby Millikan wrote:
>Edward,
>
>Is this for CBX?

Not now, but it is supposed to be in the future.

Borland has given their usual promises, and we wait to see if and when
they
will be fulfilled. CBX, in the future, is supposed to support managed C++
.NET, cross-platform wxWindows, and BCB RAD + VCL. What it will actually
support I don't think anyone knows for sure outside of Borland. The way
this
whole situation with CBX has been handled is a fiasco. Why Borland is
still
so asleep concerning C++ is beyond even Nostradamus' guess. But since
supposedly they are being profitable, I don't think they really care.

I don't take much of anything corporations say seriously anymore. I have
now
been out of work for two years and three months, and I can honestly say
that
I have been lied to by nearly every company, corporation, agency, and
business with which I have had any contact during that time. I am sure
there
are some honest business people out there, but it has been next to
impossible finding any.

>
>Digby
>
>"Edward Diener" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
>news:3fad37b9$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
>>Digby Millikan wrote:
>>>Sorry Ed, thanks for the reply I sent my last post to your email
>>>address instead of the newsgroup sever (:
>>>
>>>"Edward Diener" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
>>>news: XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
>>>>
>>>>.NET, like the VCL, is a RAD, visual designer/object manipulator,
>>>>component-based OOP programming paradigm.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Why doesn't Borland go for .NET RAD instead of wxWindows?
>>
>>They are. One of the promises is .NET Managed C++ with VCL support
>>and .NET VCL classes. They already have a .NET Delphi. But they are
>>touting wxWindows for cross-platform programming.


 

Re:VCL and VCL.NET

Quote
Why doesn't Borland go for .NET RAD instead of wxWindows?
www.borland.com/csharpbuilder/
. Ed
Quote
Digby Millikan wrote in message
news: XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
 

Re:VCL and VCL.NET

Digby Millikan wrote:
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What do you program in now? Are you developing your own projects?
I program in C++, C#, and Java. I have things I am working on, some C++
Builder components which I am also implementing on .NET in managed C++. I
may not release them for C++ Builder now that Borland has squashed its
future but I will focus on a .NET release. The components can also be
JavaBeans so I am working on that also.
Almost all my personal projects are re-usable components. I have some free
ones at www.tropicsoft.com/Components/RegularExpression , but all
other future components will be products at low prices. That is if I can
survive as a programmer, which looks more and more doubtful. If I could find
another profession which would enable me to find a decent job, I would, and
only program at nights and on weekends. But even the latter has been
impossible.
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Digby Millikan


"Edward Diener" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
news:3fad3ed8$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
>Digby Millikan wrote:
>>Edward,
>>
>>Is this for CBX?
>
>Not now, but it is supposed to be in the future.
>
>Borland has given their usual promises, and we wait to see if and
>when they will be fulfilled. CBX, in the future, is supposed to
>support managed C++ .NET, cross-platform wxWindows, and BCB RAD +
>VCL. What it will actually support I don't think anyone knows for
>sure outside of Borland. The way this whole situation with CBX has
>been handled is a fiasco. Why Borland is still so asleep concerning
>C++ is beyond even Nostradamus' guess. But since supposedly they are
>being profitable, I don't think they really care.
>
>I don't take much of anything corporations say seriously anymore. I
>have now been out of work for two years and three months, and I can
>honestly say that I have been lied to by nearly every company,
>corporation, agency, and business with which I have had any contact
>during that time. I am sure there are some honest business people
>out there, but it has been next to impossible finding any.
>
>>
>>Digby
>>
>>"Edward Diener" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
>>news:3fad37b9$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
>>>Digby Millikan wrote:
>>>>Sorry Ed, thanks for the reply I sent my last post to your email
>>>>address instead of the newsgroup sever (:
>>>>
>>>>"Edward Diener" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
>>>>news: XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
>>>>>
>>>>>.NET, like the VCL, is a RAD, visual designer/object manipulator,
>>>>>component-based OOP programming paradigm.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Why doesn't Borland go for .NET RAD instead of wxWindows?
>>>
>>>They are. One of the promises is .NET Managed C++ with VCL support
>>>and .NET VCL classes. They already have a .NET Delphi. But they are
>>>touting wxWindows for cross-platform programming.
 

Re:VCL and VCL.NET

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Re:VCL and VCL.NET

Does wxWindows support .NET?
Edward Diener wrote:
Quote
Digby Millikan wrote:

>Sorry Ed, thanks for the reply I sent my last post to your email
>address instead of the newsgroup sever (:
>
>"Edward Diener" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
>news: XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
>
>>.NET, like the VCL, is a RAD, visual designer/object manipulator,
>>component-based OOP programming paradigm.
>>
>
>Why doesn't Borland go for .NET RAD instead of wxWindows?


They are. One of the promises is .NET Managed C++ with VCL support and .NET
VCL classes. They already have a .NET Delphi. But they are touting wxWindows
for cross-platform programming.


 

Re:VCL and VCL.NET

Does wxWindows support .NET?
Edward Diener wrote:
Quote
Digby Millikan wrote:

>Sorry Ed, thanks for the reply I sent my last post to your email
>address instead of the newsgroup sever (:
>
>"Edward Diener" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
>news: XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
>
>>.NET, like the VCL, is a RAD, visual designer/object manipulator,
>>component-based OOP programming paradigm.
>>
>
>Why doesn't Borland go for .NET RAD instead of wxWindows?


They are. One of the promises is .NET Managed C++ with VCL support and .NET
VCL classes. They already have a .NET Delphi. But they are touting wxWindows
for cross-platform programming.


 

Re:VCL and VCL.NET

Ed......get real....C#Builder 1.0 was, and is, still a BETA in a Released
Products fleece. There
were so many bugs that within 2 weeks of it's release, update 1 was
released.
"Ed Mulroy [TeamB]" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message

Re:VCL and VCL.NET

Oh, so I should believe that it is no good because a patch was released for
it?
. Ed
.
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Marcelo R. Lopez, Jr. wrote in message
news:3fafc01a$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...

Ed......get real....C#Builder 1.0 was, and is, still a BETA in a
Released Products fleece. There were so many bugs that
within 2 weeks of it's release, update 1 was released.