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Steve Aletto

CBuilder Developer
 

Re: TIdSMTP with gmail


2005-10-25 10:00:54 PM
cppbuilder98
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Huh ?

Everybody can delete/cancel his own messages (using a
newsreader).
Please move to the .test group. I posted a message titled "Can I
delete this?". Then I deleted it and I don't see it anymore. But
can you still read it? Just wondering, I'm not sure I really
deleted it from the server (I'm almost sure I did not).
Steve.
 
 
Hans Galema

CBuilder Developer

2005-10-25 10:52:46 PM

Re:Re: TIdSMTP with gmail

Steve Aletto wrote:
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Please move to the .test group. I posted a message titled "Can I
delete this?". Then I deleted it and I don't see it anymore. But
can you still read it? Just wondering, I'm not sure I really
deleted it from the server (I'm almost sure I did not).
If the original post has contents:
Can I delete this?
Steve.
then it is still there.
As liz confirmed deleting is quite possible for own messages.
Maybe you have to use a real newsreader instead of OE ? <g>
Hans.
 
Bob Gonder

CBuilder Developer

2005-10-25 11:05:31 PM

Re:Re: TIdSMTP with gmail

Hans Galema wrote:
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They do. To demonstrate this I just removed the post where
you replied to.
Please see this (which may wrap)
groups.google.com/group/borland.public.cppbuilder.internet.socket/browse_thread/thread/9b5278719412006b/4ef59c95ef883095
Or tiny...
tinyurl.com/9l62r
 

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Steve Aletto

CBuilder Developer

2005-10-25 11:05:34 PM

Re:Re: TIdSMTP with gmail

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Maybe you have to use a real newsreader instead of OE ? <g>
Maybe... but we're still doing some tests. Would you kindly post
and then delete a message in the .test group?
Steve.
 
Steve Aletto

CBuilder Developer

2005-10-25 11:09:05 PM

Re:Re: TIdSMTP with gmail

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>They do. To demonstrate this I just removed the post where
 >you replied to.
Please see this (which may wrap)
groups.google.com/group/borland.public.cppbuilder.internet.socket/browse_thread/thread/9b5278719412006b/4ef59c95ef883095
If I understood correctly, that's what I'm trying to explain.
They don't see the posts in _their_ newsreader, but they're
still on the server.
Steve.
 
Jonathan Benedicto

CBuilder Developer

2005-10-25 11:14:52 PM

Re:Re: TIdSMTP with gmail

Hans Galema wrote:
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Everybody can delete/cancel his own messages (using a newsreader).
That is what I thought. I've done it before, only haven't seen the results
because OE kept the message after it was cancelled.
Jonathan
 
Hans Galema

CBuilder Developer

2005-10-25 11:24:39 PM

Re:Re: TIdSMTP with gmail

Bob Gonder wrote:
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Please see this (which may wrap)
tinyurl.com/9l62r
That is Google's cache.
See here where my message is no more there:
newsgroups.borland.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb&utag=
or
tinyurl.com/ckscp
Hans.
 
Bob Gonder

CBuilder Developer

2005-10-25 11:41:06 PM

Re:Re: TIdSMTP with gmail

Hans Galema wrote:
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That is Google's cache.
Yep.
Canceling a post doesn't help much if the sensitive data has already
escaped into the wild.
 
Steve Aletto

CBuilder Developer

2005-10-25 11:44:08 PM

Re:Re: TIdSMTP with gmail

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They don't see the posts in _their_ newsreader, but they're
still on the server.
Nope. They're right instead. See .test group.
Steve.
 
Hans Galema

CBuilder Developer

2005-10-25 11:53:42 PM

Re:Re: TIdSMTP with gmail

Bob Gonder wrote:
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Hans Galema wrote:
>That is Google's cache.
Yep.
Canceling a post doesn't help much if the sensitive data has already
escaped into the wild.
Wild Google. How to empty it's cache ? ;-).
Hans.
 
Hans Galema

CBuilder Developer

2005-10-26 03:28:14 AM

Re:Re: TIdSMTP with gmail

Jonathan Benedicto wrote:
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>Everybody can delete/cancel his own messages (using a newsreader).
That is what I thought. I've done it before, only haven't seen the results
because OE kept the message after it was cancelled.
As Jeff Overcash (TeamB) in borland.public.test stated you can only
delete your own message if post and cancel come from the same IP.
So you need a fixed IP address or post a cancel message in the
same dialup session.
Apparently the newsserver checks those IP's.
Hans.
 
Jonathan Benedicto

CBuilder Developer

2005-10-26 04:40:56 AM

Re:Re: TIdSMTP with gmail

Hans Galema wrote:
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As Jeff Overcash (TeamB) in borland.public.test stated you can only
delete your own message if post and cancel come from the same IP.
Thank you for the confirmation.
Jonathan
 
Blake Young

CBuilder Developer

2005-10-26 10:06:33 AM

Re:Re: TIdSMTP with gmail

Nevermind. I went with Indy9 instead. Installed perfectly.