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Digby Millikan
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Digby Millikan
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Microsofts shareholding in Borland2003-11-17 08:46:15 AM cppbuilder84 Does micosoft have a RAD C++ devepment enviroment competitive to Buider and VCL, how does it compare, if microsoft increased it's shareholding in Borland would it retain Builder as a flagship product? Digby |
Jeff Overcash (TeamB)
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2003-11-17 09:10:19 AM
Re:Microsofts shareholding in Borland
Digby Millikan wrote:
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Quoteif the result of of lawsuit settlement (and helped fund Kylix for one thing which was not in MS's interest at all). -- Jeff Overcash (TeamB) (Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You) If there is somebody up there could they throw me down a line. Just a little helping hand just a little understanding. Just some answers to the questions that surround me now. If there's somebody up there could they throw me down a line. (Fish) |
Michael McCulloch
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2003-11-17 09:31:28 AM
Re:Microsofts shareholding in Borland
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:16:15 +1030, "Digby Millikan"
< XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote: QuoteDoes micosoft have a RAD C++ devepment enviroment The problems to me include the fact that you must use the .NET runtime, have to deal with the "managed C++" memory issues when mixing managed/unmanaged code, and I've yet to discover how to write my own lightweight components (although I admit I haven't spent much time on it yet). However, this is definitely not the same as the old crufty MFC. It is moving in the right direction with regard to RAD features. It is just not mature yet. --- Michael McCulloch {smallsort} |
Martin Stainsby
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2003-11-17 09:55:26 AM
Re:Microsofts shareholding in Borland
"Digby Millikan" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
QuoteDoes micosoft have a RAD C++ devepment enviroment development environment for .net. C# looks very promising.as a .net development language. |
Ed Mulroy [TeamB]
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2003-11-17 10:23:42 AM
Re:Microsofts shareholding in Borland
Look up what preferred stock is before you state that Microsoft, MS, holds
shares of Borland. The term "preferred stock" really does not describe a stock at all but rather the lowest possible grade of bond and does not represent ownership. www.faqs.org/faqs/investment-faq/general/part13/ MS was being sued for targetting Borland's R&D staff. They received the disclosure of evidence as required prior to trial and in there was an item claiming that people working for Microsoft were in a hotel in San Jose making calls to Borland demanding the list of R&D employees and their home addresses and identifying themselves as investigators from the Federal Government. It is only a guess that this item is why, but after that MS decided to settle out of court. They asked that the terms of the settlement not be made public but soon after MS both gave Borland some money and bought preferred stock. Now if you wish to state the ownership of preferred stock in Borland means MS owns part of Borland, you are very wrong but the free speech guarantee in the 1st Ammendment allows you to do so. However if you do that realize this may identify you as part of the crowd of people wearing tinfoil hats. . Ed QuoteDigby Millikan wrote in message |
David Ray
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2003-11-17 12:11:52 PM
Re:Microsofts shareholding in Borland
Actually, preferred stock is ownership. It is equity capital, NOT bonds.
Preferred stock has some attributes that make it a little like debt (sometimes providing for a fixed percentage annual dividend, and getting preferential treatment over common shares in a liquidation). But it is, nevertheless, equity capital, is unsecured, and is part of stockholders' equity. The reference to "lowest grade bonds" relates only to preferred stock's status in a liquidation. Bottom line, you can't know whether a particular class of preferred really looks like a bond unless you look at the prospectus or related SEC filings. Just to set the record straight... "Ed Mulroy [TeamB]" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message QuoteLook up what preferred stock is before you state that Microsoft, MS, holds |
Gary
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2003-12-11 07:12:04 AM
Re:Microsofts shareholding in Borland
Visual C++ is not RAD? Why the heck do they call it Visual?
Gee wonder if I've ever seen Visual C++ ;) "Jeff Overcash (TeamB)" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message Quote
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R.F. Pels
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2003-12-11 07:55:39 AM
Re:Microsofts shareholding in Borland
Gary wrote:
QuoteVisual C++ is not RAD? Why the heck do they call it Visual? Ruurd |