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2003-10-03 06:36:47 PM
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"Fernando" wrote:
like it or not, things _are_ changing.
Peter
 

On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:36:47 +0200, "Peter Agricola" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >
wrote:
 

"Fernando" wrote:
Peter
 

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"Peter Agricola" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in
Longhorn, which is not scheduled till at least 2005, and that assumes no
slippage. Then there is waiting for Longhorn to become the {*word*109}
windows platform, allow at least another 12 months.
How many of us are still supporting NT4 boxes? Heck, even MS are still
supporting the product!
It seems remarkably early to be relegating Win32 to 'legacy' unless by that
you mean 'anything not so new it will not be mainstream for at least 3
years'
AlisdairM
 

"AlisdairM" wrote:
tool to port with!
Peter
 

John Kaster (Borland) wrote:
Given that this letter is going to have had an extraordinarily long time to
produce, their is clearly copious amounts of thought going into it and
surrounding it. Given that's the case, the team behind it will obviously
have quite a clear picture on what's in it/what it all means. Again,
assuming that's the case, doesn't that sound like a PERFECT scenario to have
one of the team chats mentioned in another thread?
The letter isn't coming until the 17th, which gives plenty of time to
organize such an event. I'm sure that others will agree that by offering a
chat, the chances of anyone around here still being confused/up in the air
are greatly diminished.
Any chance John?
 

Quit complaining. They're taking action to give us all the information.
I'm not sure what else we can ask.
"Randall Parker" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 18:58:50 -0700, "John Kaster (Borland)"
< XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote:
like to see answered in the letter. Sorry if some of this seems
repetitive.
1. Will the next version of CBX include the real (non-preview) version
of the bccx compiler?
2. Will it include the non-preview version of the framework agnostic
visual designer?
a. Will this allow me, for instance, to build a designer for
OWLNExt? Will it include sufficient documentation to assist in
doing so?
3. Will it include a non-preview version of the new C++ gui framework?
4. What is the new framework? wxWindows? Something based on wxWindows?
OWL/OWL - based? Or something entirely new?
5. Are there any plans to release any of the above as
downloads/add-ons for people who purchase CBX in its initial version?
6. Some indication of time-frame for supplying the above would be
nice, even if general and preliminary.
7. Will any of the above be made available for beta-testing (and if
so, would this require purchase of the current version of CBX -
personal? pro? enterprise?).
As you can see, I'm far more interested in the new framework than in
VCL support (I seem to be in the minority in this forum, but you did
not post this in the CBX groups.), though I do have some VCL apps that
could benefit from such support. I also have OWLNExt apps, and look
forward to having one environment with support for all my apps.
As a side note, I do hope that no effort is being directed to provide
VCL support in the bccx compiler - I would far prefer to see that kept
in the bcc32 compiler and maybe an update to that compiler provided if
it is deemed necessary.
Looking forward to getting started working in the new framework. Until
I hear more definitively from Borland, I will assume it will be some
version of wxWindows, so I'm starting to learn that...
Thanks.
- Leo
 

On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 15:10:48 +0200, "Peter Agricola"
< XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote:
dubious at best. How many of us still have clients with 95/98?
- Leo
 

AlisdairM < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >writes:
Valley and have them hand you out a copy? :-)
 

XXXX@XXXXX.COM (Thomas Maeder [TeamB]) wrote in
instead ;?)
Hopefully I will pick up my copy on the way back, as I believe we may be
diverted through San Jose for a few days <g>
AlisdairM
 

h^2
 

"Leo Siefert" wrote:
Peter
 

"Harold Howe [TeamB]" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in
talking C++! I guess really need to learn how to get out more <g>
AlisdairM
 

John Roberts wrote:
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