Board index » cppbuilder » Re: Borland simply doesn't give a rats @$$ about BCB users

2004-06-10 12:04:23 AM
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At 17:30:14, 09.06.2004, Doug Samuel wrote:
was that the moaning got louder again.
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Rudy Velthuis (TeamB) wrote:
 

reply. <g>
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Anyway, I'm sure there would be willing volunteers,
ready to post the news and take the flak in place of
shy Borlanders, should news be allowed out.
Z
 

At 19:14:15, 09.06.2004, zedd wrote:
the heat.
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the sole factor, they would have no trouble averting it should
they wish it (though taking flak in place of devs is what devrels
are paid for).
Z
 

At 20:22:38, 09.06.2004, zedd wrote:
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zedd < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote:
(though taking flak in place of devs is what devrels
making/leaking product announcements part of their job
responsibilities.
 

relations and being interface between customers/public
and developpers?
Z
 

At 21:06:35, 09.06.2004, zedd wrote:
newsgroup, when they have nothing to say. <g>
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"I R T" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
Have you met John? He's a sincere, hardworking guy, and doesn't deserve
your tone of voice. He doesn't set policy.
You shouldn't take out your anger at Borland on him.
Kirk Halgren
"I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools.
Let's start with typewriters."
-- Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959)
 

"Kirk Halgren" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in news:40c762ea$2
@newsgroups.borland.com:
I find this while "poor Borland baby" attitude something of a mystery.
USENET isn't a kindergarten, and if you can't take some criticism, stay
out of the fray. John K. (and others) are employed by Borland, and
unless they state otherwise, I must assume that they speak with Borland's
voice (even when they don't say anything, if you know what I mean).
The simple fact is that Borland has brought this upon themselves with
their Keystone Kops approach to the C++ product line. If they don't want
to hear criticism and don't want their poor tender DevRel guys to hear
harsh language, then they should simply shut down the groups. Otherwise,
they -- and the TeamB'ers -- need to grow up.
mr_organic
 

Gillmer,
That they really are *still* working on BCB and that they haven't already abandoned
the effort to make a v9 release is news to me. I don't know what Borland is going to
decide from one month to the next. Just getting told, say, once a month "Yes, we are
still working on a new version of BCB" is something that I will treat as news if they
will do that much.
I mean, suppose you are a BCBX user at this point. Do you know that they are going to
release another version? Have they switched from BCBX to BCB for all their C++
efforts? Do we know that top management has really decided firmly to commit to BCB
rather than or in addition to BCBX?
Maybe top management is allowing C++ management to do an exercise only to investigate
how hard it will be to do a BCB release. Maybe top management is not firmly committed
to a BCB v9 release at this point. Maybe they switch switch back again toward BCBX
should they decide that updating BCB to the latest source code base for the Delphi
IDE is going to be too much work.
Do you really feel certain about anything Borland is going to do with BCB/BCBX? I
don't. For all I know they will decide that completing the new compiler to make it
VCL compatible is too much work.
To put it another way: Would you bet your job on the proposition that Borland is
going to come out with a BCB v9 in, say, the next 9 months?
Gillmer J. Derge [TeamB] wrote:

Randall Parker wrote:
anything to alleviate these concerns, so why are people so upset about
the "information" he posted being in the Delphi groups instead of here?
One of my EE professors once said that in order for something to be
information, it has to be news / something you don't already know. By
that standard, Danny's post contained no information.
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Gillmer J. Derge [TeamB]
 

mr_organic wrote: