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Kristofer Skaug
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Kristofer Skaug
CBuilder Developer |
Re: A recomendation for reasonable version control system.2005-02-26 06:03:36 AM cppbuilder75 Boian Mitov wrote: Quote
-- Kristofer |
Kristofer Skaug
CBuilder Developer |
2005-02-26 06:17:28 AM
Re:Re: A recomendation for reasonable version control system.
Boian Mitov wrote:
QuoteYou are way off. I am talking about file share between library imagine there are good reasons for it. Your earlier post (quoting: "vast amount of files, well within millions, most of them binary, and we change and rearrange the directories and sub directories on daily basis") made the whole development process seem extremely fluid, I guess that's what sparked my comment. I've never worked on a project with such characteristics. It would be interesting to hear the drivers behind this "dynamo" of ever-mutating files and directories. With regards to file sharing, for sure files need to be shared among projects, however in my environment these library files are more strictly controlled in discrete and formally tagged releases; that is, you either use "version 1" of Library_File_A, or "version 2", but never something-in-between, or whatever-the-latest-checkin-was. So what we usually end up with is a "configured library" tree of read-only checkouts on our network. People can only change these files going through a special qualification cycle and approval with the "Librarian" - after which, the new release is deployed to the network library tree. As you may have surmised from my other posts, I am also 'on the prowl' for a new version control system (currently half-heartedly living with CVS). And one of the main things I want to figure out is the *limitations* of the various systems out there, so that I can be somewhat confident that I won't get stuck with a hidden 'gotcha' a few months down the road. -- Kristofer |
Kristofer Skaug
CBuilder Developer |
2005-02-26 06:20:34 AM
Re:Re: A recomendation for reasonable version control system.
Boian Mitov wrote:
QuoteNot until we get a working Java. I have worked with SmartCVS in the Hmmm, I have a copy of MagicDraw lying around here... <sigh>well, good riddance, I'm not using it anymore. But apart from the compatability thing, how bad was SmartCVS? -- Kristofer {smallsort} |
Boian Mitov
CBuilder Developer |
2005-02-26 06:40:20 AM
Re:Re: A recomendation for reasonable version control system.
Hi Kristofer,
It broke before even I got well enough with it :-( . As it was more important to have CBX at the time it was s{*word*99}ped. It did not offer the file sharing ( a CVS fault I guess ), so there was no reason to keep it alive. It was not a very friendly UI however, with a lot of Java flickering and menu misbehaviors. Those may have been fixed since then. Cheers, Boian Kristofer Skaug wrote: QuoteLOL, as long as you don't use *any* other Java tools then you should be |
Boian Mitov
CBuilder Developer |
2005-02-26 06:43:00 AM
Re:Re: A recomendation for reasonable version control system.
We seems to be on the same boat here ;-) . I have been half-heartedly
living with VSS for a while ;-) . I am testing them all one by one. A very tedious experience :-( . Long live the VMWare ;-) . I can even test Java stuff without messing up my system ;-). Cheers, Boian Kristofer Skaug wrote: QuoteAs you may have surmised from my other posts, I am also 'on the prowl' |
Boian Mitov
CBuilder Developer |
2005-02-26 06:48:17 AM
Re:Re: A recomendation for reasonable version control system.
Hi Kristofer,
Thank you! I got it to work yesterday. It has some little hiccups when synching. Also have not been able to share a file across projects or dirs. I have sent then e-mail. No respond yet. :-( . I will keep you informed what I have discovered. I am also messing with StarTeam in a Virtual Machine. Didn't dare to install it on the primary one, as I suspect that it may have some Java in it ;-) . Until I am sure I can install at least the client without any Java it will stay on Virtual Machine. Cheers, Boian Kristofer Skaug wrote: QuoteYou can! (I just did, last week); just install the server locally and |
Boian Mitov
CBuilder Developer |
2005-02-26 06:49:48 AM
Re:Re: A recomendation for reasonable version control system.
Wasn't the BitKeeper the p2p one? I relay am a bit scared to run a
p2p version control system. Cheers, Boian Kristofer Skaug wrote: QuoteOscar Fuentes wrote: |
Kristofer Skaug
CBuilder Developer |
2005-02-26 07:28:35 AM
Re:Re: A recomendation for reasonable version control system.
Boian Mitov wrote:
QuoteDidn't dare to install it on the primary one, <quoting> Wife: Have you got anything without spam? Waitress: Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it. Wife: I don't want ANY spam! </quoting> -- Kristofer |
Kristofer Skaug
CBuilder Developer |
2005-02-26 07:33:24 AM
Re:Re: A recomendation for reasonable version control system.
Boian Mitov wrote:
QuoteIt was not a very friendly UI however, with a lot of it was still in beta). I *like* almost everything SVN is advertising so far, except the lack of a decent UI. Tortoise isn't half enough, it would have to be a CvsGUI (for SVN) but preferably more. -- Kristofer |
Boian Mitov
CBuilder Developer |
2005-02-26 08:10:11 AM
Re:Re: A recomendation for reasonable version control system.
I got the same impression from SVN. No GUIs :-( . And I am still not
sure it supports file share. Other than that sounds great. Cheers, Boian Kristofer Skaug wrote: QuoteDrat. I had been sort of hoping that SmartSVN might turn out to be a |
Roddy Pratt
CBuilder Developer |
2005-02-28 05:25:12 PM
Re:Re: A recomendation for reasonable version control system.
"Boian Mitov" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
QuoteDidn't dare to install it on the primary one, as I suspect that it may If I start a rumour that MS Virtual PC is actually written in Java, then Boian will be really stuck... - Roddy |
Roddy Pratt
CBuilder Developer |
2005-02-28 05:38:52 PM
Re:Re: A recomendation for reasonable version control system.QuoteFWIW, many of our larger (thousands of users) StarTeam customers moved I assume you were trying to say it either "performed better" or "ran faster". Both these phrases have the advantage that they're easily understood, shorter, and use words that actually exist in dictionaries. </microrant> - Roddy |
John Kaster (Borland)
CBuilder Developer |
2005-03-01 04:09:57 AM
Re:Re: A recomendation for reasonable version control system.
Roddy Pratt wrote:
QuoteBut obviously, less Englishant..? Quoteand use words that actually exist in dictionaries. posts when I'm writing quickly. -- John Kaster blogs.borland.com/johnk Features and bugs: qc.borland.com Get source: cc.borland.com If it's not here, it's not happening: ec.borland.com |
Boian Mitov
CBuilder Developer |
2005-03-01 06:42:32 AM
Re:Re: A recomendation for reasonable version control system.
Hi Ruddy,
I am actually using VMWare ;-) . And I am only testing to see if the sucker I downloaded is going to install Java VM or not ;-). Then again, if the VMWare becomes written in Java, it indeed will be a different Java, the one worth being installed by me ;-). Unfortunately we don't have such Java yet, now do we? ;-) So far VMWare have not crashed my system. I wish I could say the same for Java. I had crashes even from web Applets in the past. Cheers, Boian Roddy Pratt wrote: QuoteSo, to avoid installing the Java Virtual Machine, you install 80x86 Virtual |
Roddy Pratt
CBuilder Developer |
2005-03-01 08:35:59 AM
Re:Re: A recomendation for reasonable version control system.
"John Kaster (Borland)" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
QuoteWhat dictionary did you look in? But, dictionary.com offers 'performant' as a noun meaning performer (as in informer/informant), but no hint of it as an adjective. However, google has 100K+ hits for 'performant', so it's obviously in regular use somewhere! QuoteI have a very large vocabulary. Sometimes it manifests itself in my vice-versa. How about 'performanter' (as in "Delphi is performanter than BCB"?)... Regards, Roddy |