Nice idea Mike - it would give all of us a say in the future of the
language / platform as well as some kind of hope/guarantee that there
actually is a future. As a for-reals owner of D1-D6 Enterprise and K1-K3
Enterprise I have been a big supporter/user for a long time - however I
am getting push back from my clients about why I don't abandon this
"dead language" in favor of a Java/JBoss solution or the like.
I really get all the noise about the IDE for GUI development, but I
think an under-utilized feature of Kylix is the ability to create SOs
for Apache - I have abandoned all local executables in favor of a
completely web-based architecture for every application... literally
everything. The best part is that my developers cannot write {*word*193}
cryptic job-security-style C++ code (because of the O-Pascal dialect)
yet the final objects are compiled and run at the speed of C++. Given
the reliability of the Linux platform my applications run with an
up-time that FAR surpasses anything we've ever done with Windows. I wish
that the Borland folks would capitalize on the fact that folks like me
get fewer 2am calls because we've moved to Kylix/Linux rather than
simply selling out to the Dot-Nyet framework.
All this being said, I have my doubts that your idea would be acted on,
but I applaud your novel thinking. Hello Borland - if you're listening -
can you see the desperation and dedication of your loyal base? We all
understand your need to suck up to Uncle Bill, but can you throw just a
little love our way?
-EP
mike wrote:
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Ivan,
Here's an interesting idea (perhaps)...
If Borland thinks it is not worth the $investment$ to update Kylix, for fear of it not producing an acceptable ROI, is it possible we (the Kylix-using community) could "contract them" to invest in upgrading it??
What I am proposing is this: Borland sets a price (TOTAL development $ target they need to make it worth doing) to upgrade the Kylix platform to support latest Qt and modern Linux distro features, etc, then, they take "deposits" (pre-pay for the licenses we desire) from all of us interested developers, and agree (contractually) to produce a product in X period of time (something reasonable like 6 months or a year). Then, let's assume that there are enough of us out here that will lay down the $$ to get the updates we so desparately want. They must deliver a product update in order to not lose all this "deposited" (and guaranteed) money if they do the work!
Am I just dreaming, or could it be a way to work through this type of situation, where companies like Borland are sitting on a GREAT product (for many reasons!) but are unwilling to take the "risk" to invest in further upgrades or whatever? Please... anything to give us hope. I really don't think Borland realizes the asset they have in Kylix - it really has AWESOME potential, especially given the rise of Linux. I was a Linux skeptic for a long time, and a MS Certified Partner, etc... I really WANT to move my Delphi projects over to run on Linux now that the platform is mature, and in some ways even superior to Windows. I only see the shift to Linux becoming larger/faster, as more awesome distros like Ubuntu/kubuntu, Kanotix, FC, etc take over.
Thoughts anyone? (especially from anyone at Borland)
Mike
"Ivan Revelli" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote:
>hi,
>Kylix is a great idea for a lot of aspects, but if the product will not
>supported by upgrades all work done to enter in this area of business will
>be destroyed. Now doing a Kylix version compatible with new Qt versions and
>some new cores is not for Borland a big work i think. Kylix is a good
>product that can be really the first in linux develpment, another try to
>open this area can be very important in the future. Now Kylix 3 is used by a
>lot of programmers in the world, probably al lot of person / factory are
>ready to buy a new version of the product. Remember that a lot of kylix 3
>license was selled combo by delphi 7 and a lot of programmers starder with
>that.
>
>bst rgds
>ivan
>
> XXXX@XXXXX.COM
>www.csdrevelli.it
>
>
>p.s. : sorry, i don't speak english well. thanks
>
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