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Re: Novell acquires Linux company Ximian2003-08-05 07:59:08 PM kylix1 "Rosimildo da Silva" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message Quotejuliusz wrote: Hilton Evans ----------------------------------------------- ChemPen Chemical Structure Software www.chempensoftware.com |
juliusz
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2003-08-05 07:59:35 PM
Re:Re: Novell acquires Linux company Ximian
PhilO wrote:
Quote>The market wanted GUI interface ?we have this, now market wants and take time. juliusz -- InstallMade - Kylix-specific installer builder creates InstallMade's standalone executables. www.superobject.com/download/ www.superobject.com/installmade/ |
Hilton Evans
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2003-08-05 08:02:05 PM
Re:Re: Novell acquires Linux company Ximian
"juliusz" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
QuoteJQP wrote: -- Hilton Evans ----------------------------------------------- ChemPen Chemical Structure Software www.chempensoftware.com {smallsort} |
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2003-08-06 01:01:18 AM
Re:Re: Novell acquires Linux company Ximian
"juliusz" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
QuoteWhile you may be referring to the success of Microsoft Office, we QuoteWhat is important? Novell as well many other computer related Novell will have the opportunity to compete against Open Source on a "fair" basis. It'll be most interesting to see how well this works. |
Ender
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2003-08-06 02:08:45 AM
Re:Re: Novell acquires Linux company Ximian
J>LOL! If MS gives software away, it's unfair. When Open Source does
J>the same but to a far greater extreme, it's fair. Of course when people trying to fight against a tank they will complain that it is unfair. When this tank will be put in the swamp (and without cannon and machinegun shells) they consider that it is fair. :-) |
PhilO
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2003-08-06 02:16:45 AM
Re:Re: Novell acquires Linux company XimianQuoteThe market wanted GUI interface ?we have this, now market wants them to use "the best" and that being M$. Then again M$'s lan manager and Win NT were slow out of the starting blocks, but gained steam over time. |
juliusz
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2003-08-06 05:21:17 AM
Re:Re: Novell acquires Linux company Ximian
JQP wrote:
QuoteThe Open Source approach is to give away everything and make your it doesn't make it so. ;-) The neighborhood becomes poor, when there is only one software vendor who supplies so much needed software for ridiculously high prices, software with questionable quality; because they can. The software vendor can charged any prices they want because the customer does not have much choice; he is locked in the vendor solution or there is only one vendor in the neighborhood and the vendor really doesn't care if you have a virus on your system or you will suffer expenses in effort to recreate your lost business data, business interruptions and so on.. What they care is to sale to you another "greater" version of the same software for ever higher prices and further increase your dependency on them. Eventually what is happening that the software vendor is draining so much money from the region to the point that there is no any chance for any development at all, or to pay employees wages. That's poor. What open source does? Open source provides only possible (because of a barrier to enter situation ) alternative "a competitor" and just by being there, the whole situation magically is changing; the big software vendor has to start thinking about quality, offer reasonable pricing, and think about security, they have to make their products better. Thanks to the open source the neighborhood becomes richer and the technological progress and innovation is rejuvenated, that's the power of healthy competition... and that's the imminent role of the open source software.. juliusz -- InstallMade - Kylix-specific installer builder creates InstallMade's standalone executables. www.superobject.com/download/ www.superobject.com/installmade/ |
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2003-08-06 05:53:55 AM
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Ender wrote:
Quotej>Not bad, not bad at all; Danny Thorpe from Borland said that "Kylix marketing it is sort of “no win?situation, I guess. ;-) It sound really good thought. I really don't mind, if Borland sales as many boxes of Kylix they can, if more then better... then they will have enough money to fix things ;-) juliusz -- InstallMade - Kylix-specific installer builder creates InstallMade's standalone executables. www.superobject.com/download/ www.superobject.com/installmade/ |
JQP
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2003-08-06 11:08:26 AM
Re:Re: Novell acquires Linux company Ximian
"Ender" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
QuoteOf course when people trying to fight against a tank they will complain |
Ender
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2003-08-06 01:09:23 PM
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j>Not bad, not bad at all; Danny Thorpe from Borland said that "Kylix
j>is the #1 most-used IDE for Linux application development. Period." j>and that "Kylix achieved a major share of that market within only a j>few months of its first release, and it has maintained that top j>position ever since." :-)))) IMHO, complete {*word*99}. Of course they asked "right" bunch of people to produce "right" results. The most used IDE for Linux application development GCC/EMACS. j>Personally, I think it is a terrific tool, and I am looking forward j>to the next purchase of Kylix 4. ;-) |
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2003-08-06 04:01:20 PM
Re:Re: Novell acquires Linux company Ximian
juliusz < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, wrote these words of
incredible wisdom: QuoteJQP wrote: Vi follows close behind. |
Ender
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2003-08-06 06:49:19 PM
Re:Re: Novell acquires Linux company Ximian
juliusz wrote:
QuoteThat's the role of the correctly working PR department I guess. People reality. |
Johannes Berg
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2003-08-06 08:19:05 PM
Re:Re: Novell acquires Linux company Ximian
On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 11:09:23 +0600, Ender wrote:
QuoteThe most used IDE for Linux application development johannes |
F.F
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2003-08-06 08:45:33 PM
Re:Re: Novell acquires Linux company Ximian
Johannes Berg < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, wrote these words of
incredible wisdom: QuoteOn Wed, 06 Aug 2003 11:09:23 +0600, Ender wrote: It obviously is not Kylix. |
Johannes Berg
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2003-08-06 09:34:52 PM
Re:Re: Novell acquires Linux company Ximian
On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 22:45:33 +1000, F. wrote:
QuoteRAD was not mentioned in the initial post. |