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Phoenix
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Phoenix
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Re: 2004 - Year of Linux Desktop2003-12-15 04:57:55 AM kylix0 Ender wrote: QuoteMike Mormando: -- .. P. |
Mike Mormando
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2003-12-16 12:14:16 AM
Re:Re: 2004 - Year of Linux Desktop
"Ender" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
Quote>>I'm curious how they can disable DivX movie written on the CD? Or of your machines to make sure you had the right number of licenses, so stupidity and EULA's do seem to go hand in hand. And "disabling" media wouldn't necessarily mean altering the content, though if it were on an HD they could. What about just making M$ media player ignore the suspect content. What about forcing ALL media players to ignore suspect content. Might be possible with Longhorn and new filesystem? Who knows?? Mike |
Ender
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2003-12-16 01:42:24 AM
Re:Re: 2004 - Year of Linux Desktop
MM>Well, remembering back to some earlier EULA controversies with
MM>Borland, at one point Borland's EULA stated they could come and MM>physically inspect all of your machines to make sure you had the MM>right number of licenses, so stupidity and EULA's do seem to go hand MM>in hand. Yes, i'm remember this. MM>And "disabling" media wouldn't necessarily mean altering the MM>content, though if it were on an HD they could. MM>What about just making M$ media player ignore the suspect content. MM>What about forcing ALL media players to ignore suspect content. MM>Might be possible with Longhorn and new filesystem? MM>Who knows?? I think determination of what content is illegal is very fuzzy process. What if software component that determine legality of content just have error and mistakenly decide that actually legal content is illegal? What if someone's software create content that look as illegal? So MS quickly drown in the ocean of support calls or something like this. The end will be one of two cases: 1. Step by step instructions how to disable that software component from Microsoft. 2. Classis hack of this component as this was happened with Windows Activation. I know people who legally bought Windows XP but cracked activation mechanism just because it's faster than reactivate Windows. --- Andrew V. Fionik, Papillon Systems, Unix Programmers Group For reply use "ender" instead of "fionika" in e-mail. {smallsort} |
Jeff Undercash
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2004-01-16 05:26:11 AM
Re:Re: 2004 - Year of Linux Desktop
I predicted the exact same thing in this newsgroup not too long ago. Looks
like I'm not the only one with the same belief: slashdot.org/article.pl Everyone else on the planet is promoting Linux while the focus here is on .Net... |
Hilton Evans
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2004-01-16 07:11:00 AM
Re:Re: 2004 - Year of Linux Desktop
Jeff Undercash" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message news: XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
QuoteI predicted the exact same thing in this newsgroup not too long ago. Looks sells $199 Lindows PCs. Aside from slashdot pontificaters, what's the evidence? -- Hilton Evans ----------------------------------------------- ChemPen Chemical Structure Software www.chempensoftware.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/04 |
Alessandro Federici
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2004-01-16 08:01:10 AM
Re:Re: 2004 - Year of Linux Desktop
"Hilton Evans" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
Quote[..] Aside from slashdot pontificaters, what's the evidence? |
JQP
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2004-01-16 08:02:10 AM
Re:Re: 2004 - Year of Linux Desktop
"Hilton Evans" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
QuoteWhen you go into an electronics or computer retailer, do you Red Hat should know the Linux market better than most. They seem to be pulling back from the consumer desktop. |
Trane Francks
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2004-01-16 08:55:09 AM
Re:Re: 2004 - Year of Linux Desktop
On 01/16/04 08:11 +0900, Hilton Evans wrote:
QuoteWhen you go into an electronics or computer retailer, do you broadband connectivity bundle. It is the first honest-to-goodness Linux PC I've ever seen for sale. It shares showroom space with about 80 other PCs and Macs. ;^) All this "Year of the Linux Desktop" is SO optimistic. Blindly so. Go to IBM's site <www.ibm.com/>and you're greeted with the headline "Linux is Everywhere." Oh? So then why can't I buy a ThinkPad with Linux preinstalled? D'oh! I think it's great that Linux is getting mindshare and there's no question that it is BEGINNING to make inroads on the desktop, but any significant computer retailer showroom presence is still, IMO, years in the future. I suspect it'll be 2010 before Linux has equal "preinstalled" representation in retail showrooms as do Macs. Frankly, with Lindows offering the only legit commercial DVD playback software, why would the average home user want to install Linux? Until LinDVD or PowerDVD for Linux are released to the general unwashed masses, Linux isn't going to get more than a passing nod. trane -- //------------------------------------------------------------ // Trane Francks XXXX@XXXXX.COM Tokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. |
pNichols
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2004-01-16 10:30:22 PM
Re:Re: 2004 - Year of Linux Desktop
Hilton Evans wrote:
QuoteJeff Undercash" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message the home market. If you want corporate desktop PCs shipped with Linux, IBM or HP will accomodate you quite nicely <G>. |
Steve-O
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2004-01-17 01:55:41 AM
Re:Re: 2004 - Year of Linux Desktop
"Jeff Undercash" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
QuoteI predicted the exact same thing in this newsgroup not too long ago. Quote
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JQP
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2004-01-17 03:39:43 AM
Re:Re: 2004 - Year of Linux Desktop
"Steve-O" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
QuoteYawn... Every year seems to be the year Linux will trounce on MS. Still the process, you'll demonstrate to most people that you really don't have a clue. |
R.F. Pels
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2004-01-17 06:35:44 AM
Re:Re: 2004 - Year of Linux Desktop
Trane Francks wrote:
<snip> Quoteinstall Linux? Until LinDVD or PowerDVD for Linux are released to DVD's? -- Ruurd |
Andreas Prucha
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2004-01-17 06:46:59 AM
Re:Re: 2004 - Year of Linux Desktop
"Hilton Evans" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in
QuoteWhen you go into an electronics or computer retailer, do you |
Hilton Evans
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2004-01-17 07:20:18 AM
Re:Re: 2004 - Year of Linux Desktop
"pNichols" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message news: XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...
QuoteHilton Evans wrote: staffs to babysit them are willing to go through the hassle to convert from Windows to Linux; and they will get significant savings from their economies of change. Even in big corporations some are sufficiently compartmentalized so that a move to a single platform makes no sense. When I was working in as a research spectroscopist our analytical and physical chemistry departments mostly used PCs while our synthetic chemistry department favored Macs. And, the choice of platform on a scientific instrument was determined by the supplier. A small business with a couple of dozen PCs won't gain much in dollar savings moving to Linux and stands to lose and savings on procurement to service and training. -- Hilton Evans ----------------------------------------------- ChemPen Chemical Structure Software www.chempensoftware.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/04 |
JQP
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2004-01-17 07:59:20 AM
Re:Re: 2004 - Year of Linux Desktop
"Hilton Evans" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >wrote in message
QuoteAnd, that market is probably overblown. Here in the U.S. most Companies with fewer than 500 employees make up more than 99% of the businesses in the US. |